Hwasin: Controller of the Heart
Gu Ra! Gu Ra, Kim Gu Ra! I never knew.
I thought he was a guest.
Sorry, but I should be the center of attention.
- Is it supposed to be not smooth like this? - He's alive and kicking.
I used to carry a beeper.
- 'Seo In Guk is gay,' someone wrote. - Do I have to say everything?
- It's strange. - I think you're stranger, Gu Ra.
[Collision between people who are off the wall!]
Wait just a bit longer.
We did it! We did it!
A new show every week.
- On Tuesdays... - Hwasin!
[Seo In Guk, Bong Tae Gyu, Choi Kang Hee, Park Jeong Cheol]
Every week we do our best to evolve.
We are new, and we have a new host, as well.
It's something that looks long.
I never knew I would see you on a Tuesday.
I thought I might see you on a Wednesday.
Gu Ra goes for it as soon as the show starts. He shows no mercy.
I've become coarser in a year.
[Upgrade in biting remarks?!]
To me, SBS is like my family.
- SBS recruited him. - Oh, really?
- I'm the prodigal son of SBS. - The prodigal son returns.
Still, since you are back, you should give a little speech.
But first, I have a question. What do you think of this show?
You know, I... And I'm sorry because today...
We need to talk about me for at least the early portion of the show.
It's because many people are interested in my return.
We'll talk about me first, and then about Bong Tae Gyu, who's made a comeback.
Everyone's curious about Choi Kang Hee too--
- He never talked this way before. - We'll take it one step at a time.
Please give me some air time.
[Gu Ra has changed]
I feel awkward right now because it's been so long since I've sat at the end of a table.
I was always a main host during my prime days.
These two are the main hosts, and we're sitting at the edge.
Wingmen, we're like their wingmen.
Your logic is totally misleading.
[Biting remarks explode!]
- What do you think of Gu Ra? - Mm...
- How does he look in person? - I think he looks better on TV.
Don't look at me directly but look at that TV monitor.
Hee Sun's face looks so small in comparison.
That's what's so good about Gu Ra sitting beside you.
Ah, really?
- I want to sit closer. - Let's take a shot of them together.
Sit a little closer to him.
Think of it as taking a picture with your younger sister.
How should I pose?
[It's not photoshopped]
[Awkward]
The two of you...
Take your time to get to know each other. Take your time.
Anyhow, I am your senior show host here, right?
I think...
What do you think of Hee Sun--
I will bow all the way down to you.
[Gu Ra is a junior host for Hwasin?]
Gu Ra, we warmly welcome you to our show!
[Welcome MC Gu Ra]
Please introduce today's guests.
We have guests who have a high probability of winning here on Hwasin.
Guests with insight since they chose Hwasin.
Choi Kang Hee, Park Jeong Cheol, Bong Tae Gyu, and Seo In Guk!
[Seo In Guk, Bong Tae Gyu, Choi Kang Hee, Park Jeong Cheol]
Once we hear from Bong Tae Gyu and Seo In Guk...
It should be over soon.
[Are you sure?]
We have an actress here who's the same age as Hee Sun, the kind of guest she doesn't like.
How come?
She tends to not like actresses who are the same age as her.
- We've talked today-- - We've talked today--
Ah, really?
We go to the same hair salon, so we talked there.
Right, you ladies talked out of courtesy.
'Oh, you look so pretty,' like this?
- Mm... - Are you being blunt since I'm here now?
Yeah, Gu Ra was just going for it.
[I don't want to lose to Gu Ra!]
How about it? When did you two work together before?
- We were in 'Wanee and Junah.' - Yes, yes.
We were in a TV drama, too.
- 'Sunflower.' - Ah, that's right, that's right.
Yes, yes, we were in 'Sunflower' together...
- She isn't really interested in me. - No, no.
It's not that. I thought she was way younger than me.
When we were making 'Wanee and Junah,' she asked me, 'How old are you?'
- Yeah, I thought she was younger than me. - We're the same age...
[Glad to meet you!]
You two are not a good match.
Not a match...
You don't have to force yourselves to be a match if you aren't one.
If you aren't.
Because a tragedy starts when you force it.
They told me that Kang Hee is good friends with Kim Suk.
So I thought, 'She's pretty strange.'
That's when I knew.
- Why? What's wrong with Kim Suk? - She is strange.
Tae Gyu, don't you think so?
- Pardon? - Isn't she strange?
I think... you are stranger than her, Gu Ra.
[An unexpected surprise attack!]
Yeah, I am a little strange. I am.
There was a rumor saying that you are a lesbian.
- You know about it, right? - I delete such comments when they show up.
There was a rumor going around saying that Song Eun Yi and Choi Kang Hee are lovers.
No, that can't be true.
People don't tell me about it, but it shows up when I search my name online.
And also...
I'm in the top five sexiest female celebrities voted by lesbians.
But... is it okay to talk about something like this?
It's okay because I am here. Yes.
It's okay because I am here.
I'll deflect any criticism. I'll absorb them all like a sponge, okay?
[Sponge Gu Ra will deflect any controversy?]
- And Tae Gyu... - Yes.
[Anxious]
Are you wearing one of your father's jackets?
The jacket... doesn't look like it's for someone your age.
- I don't have a stylist. - You don't?
I wear clothes that I like.
No, it looks nice and dandy.
And also... I think you know fashion, Gu Ra.
It's re-designed using an old jacket.
Your jacket looks like it's a bit big for you.
- But that's how you're supposed to wear it. - Oh, really?
Like a repeat student?
I didn't say hi to him right away because...
I thought he was a producer.
I think we were in the standby room for about thirty minutes together.
I thought he was a producer.
I later recognized that it was Bong Tae Gyu, so I apologized to him.
I never knew In Guk would chew me up like this.
[It's a dog-eat-dog world on variety shows?!]
Jeong Cheol is already burned out, and we haven't even begun.
No, no.
He and I were classmates in college.
Because we were classmates, I know. I heard he's a person of feeble strength.
I am not sure because I wasn't friends with him.
- You weren't friends with her? - And there is a reason for it.
I usually avoided drinking with friends since I have a weak tolerance for alcohol.
[Sweats]
I heard this from my friends.
'I think you have to handle at least 50 soju bombs to hang out with her,' they said.
- Since college days? - Since college days.
- She was twenty years old. - I see.
- That's when I found out that-- - Who told you that?
Who said I drink fifty glasses?
And she talks down to him just like that.
No, that's because we're close and very supportive of one another.
Was he good at acting when he was a student?
I majored in directing in college.
- In directing? - He didn't major in acting.
And also, I don't think you had double eyelids then.
[Suspicious that Jeong Cheol had cosmetic surgery done]
- My eyelids back then-- - No, no.
- It doesn't look fake. - They were folded inward.
No, you didn't have them.
No, it's because... Don't they look artificial?
What do you mean artificial? They look natural.
She is a strange person too, this one.
- Did you get them done? - Talking about his eyelids all of a sudden!
- I did have double eyelids. - It would make sense if they were friends.
But she didn't even pay much attention to him.
Once I lost my baby fat, my double eyelids became more visible.
You don't have to explain yourself like that.
[Let's conclude that they are real...]
We diagnose our guests based on rumors about them. 'Heard It Through the Grapevine.'
[Heard It Through the Grapevine]
Jang Ki Ha comes to our show and leaves this segment for us.
Isn't that something?
I think this segment comes just at the right time
because there are so many rumors going around on social media sites.
There are. People text updates and talk about rumors regarding celebrities.
Some of them are correct, but some of them are absurd.
We prepared a segment about rumors--
By the way, Tae Gyu, have you ever heard rumors about yourself?
I've never heard about a rumor that involves me.
- I haven't... - In Guk, how about you?
- In my case... - You've probably heard some of them--
- I have heard about this one rumor-- - What does it say?
When I searched my name, a suggested search came up that said, 'Seo In Guk gay.'
- I was in a TV drama for a cable channel... - You kissed Hoya in it, right?
Hoya played a character who liked me.
After that I played a character who loves a man in K.Will's music video.
After that, a rumor started that I am gay.
- 'Seo In Guk is gay' became a search topic. - Yes, you can tell the truth here.
- It's a good segment. - Rumor talk, yes.
With Choi Kang Hee--
It's our show, and yet you're giving your opinions so much on your first day--
Since that incident last year...
my philosophy is to let myself do what I can for today.
- You never know what'll happen next week. - For sure, for sure.
Why think about next week?
I agree as a TV personality who went through many incidents...
- So I agree... - You just think about today's income.
A rumor about Kang Hee: 'Whether it's inanimate
or alive, she goes crazy once she's into it.'
- There is a rumor like that? - There is.
Since she's in a TV drama... she is into Joo Won.
[I heard it through the grapevine]
I did get into him. I fall for something easily.
You get that way because of the character you play?
There was a time when I confused myself with the character I was playing.
- You fell in love and-- - I fell in love because of that.
I hear that you went out with two actors that you worked with.
Ah, really?
Can you say?
- Who they are? - Yes.
- No. - You can't?
- Why not? - I would regret it.
- Don't you want to just blurt it out? - Everyone knows.
- Really? Am I the only one who doesn't? - I heard about that one, too.
Write down their names for me.
[Kang Hee's honesty makes even Gu Ra curious]
Was he someone more famous than you, Kang Hee?
I didn't want to burden him. Yes, he was more famous.
You were in a movie with him?
You were in a TV drama with him, right?
[Wonder who was her man?]
You fell in love with two men after you worked with them, right?
Do you think you have the ability to control yourself with things like that now?
I do.
- Do you really? - Having been an actress for 18 years...
now I can separate reality from fiction.
Did you try hard not to fall for someone because you were afraid it might happen?
I worked with Joo Won in a TV drama and he's ten years younger than me.
If you look at someone like Uhm Yong Soo...
he married someone ten years younger than him with no problem.
There are some who marry someone 17 years younger.
- Look at Lee Wan Hee. - Yoo Tung, as well.
Yes, him too...
I guess he's not dead yet! He is alive and kicking.
If he's ten years younger than you, and since you tend to fall in love--
I have been asked out by someone who is ten years younger than me.
[She has the best babyface ever!]
'1 Night 2 Days' recently aired a special episode with romanticism as the theme.
- Joo Won chose Kang Hee as his guest. - Ah, really?
He called me out of the blue. 'We're going backpacking. Would you like to go together?'
'What is this about?' I asked him.
He said they asked him to bring something or someone on a romantic backpacking trip.
I think he brought me along because of that.
It might be because I tend to look at things this way, but...
When a man goes on a trip for one night and two days
the idea of bringing along an unmarried woman on that trip is...
Is there something wrong with me?
- I agree with you. - Right?
Right? Don't you think Joo Won was sending you a message?
'Let's go on trips together more often,' for example.
I am starting to fall in love again.
What was that?
Joo Won said that Choi Kang Hee is so innocent.
'Kang Hee is not 37 years old. She's 37 months old.'
- About that... - [Lost for words]
- What? What? - You two are just unbelievable.
- I heard Joo Won adores you so much. - He adores me.
There are photos of Joo Won hugging you from the back and using your feet as a pillow.
And also...
Joo Won drew a picture of you and gave it to you as a gift.
- Kang Hee bragged about it on Twitter. - I bragged about it.
- But when you think about it-- - Don't you think Joo Won likes you?
No, that can't be...
- It does seem that way even to me. - No, I said!
She and I were in a film together.
- Nothing like this ever happened. - What do you mean by that?
None of this--
- Have you ever hugged her from the back? - Hugging from the back?
We started off on the wrong foot.
- You've never mentioned me on Twitter, right? - No...
- That's what I mean. - It's--
It sounds different from how you are with Joo Won.
In this case, we started off on the wrong foot.
With Joo Won...
I think he knows how to make others feel at ease with him.
So you feel comfortable touching and hugging him?
I was like this in the beginning.
When I first met him, he didn't even make eye contact.
A lot of people say that he is very amiable.
But he's also shy, so he greeted me without making eye contact.
- On our second meeting-- - Maybe I should've drawn you something too.
- Second time you met him? - On our second meeting, he said, 'Hi.'
After about a week, we started to have longer conversations.
- It takes time for him to-- - Make new friends.
And one day, he called my name, 'Kang Hee!'
- It's cute. - What's the age difference between you two?
- How old are you? - I am--
You don't know how old he is either?
- I am 33 years old. - I am 4 years older than him.
[Maybe you should've drawn a picture of her...]
You even made a movie with Tae Gyu and you didn't fall for him.
No, it's not that. You don't fall for anyone and everyone, right?
True.
Why don't you fall for him out of courtesy?
Why don't you look at him as if you fell for him for just two hours?
Tae Gyu, why don't you call her and say
'Kang Hee, I am in Yangsu-ri. Come over.'
- And why Yangsu-ri? - It has a symbolic meaning.
What does it symbolize?
- There is something like that. - It symbolizes remote areas.
It's a village, right?
'Come over, Kang Hee.'
- It's never happened, but-- - I see you two have feelings for each other.
A 10-year difference is not even a problem these days.
What if Joo Won told you, 'Kang Hee, I want to go out with you.'
- Would you consider it? - If he asked me out?
- No... - Really?
Why not?
I don't like to date celebrities.
[There is something here...]
- Dating a celebrity is-- - You're tired of it, right?
When I was young, I broke up with someone without any regret.
I'm not sure if it was because he didn't want me anymore.
I just felt as if we were both hindering each other's success.
I heard you fell for Sung Si Kyung recently.
With Sung Si Kyung
I fell for him for about two hours.
Why did you fall for him for only two hours?
I forgot about him after I woke up.
Falling for someone also requires maintenance, right?
How did you fall for Sung Si Kyung in the first place?
Joo Won talked highly of Sung Si Kyung--
- It is all about Joo Won. - Yes, Joo Won.
- I see... - I do...
- She looked him up because of Joo Won. - Right.
You should watch what you say here because we have three biting tongues here.
I think there should be a couple like Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher in our country as well.
A couple where the man is in his twenties and the woman is in her
forties or fifties in order to make our celebrity culture more diversified.
Isn't Demi Moore so broken-hearted after he broke up with her?
About that...
I heard that rumor too... through the grapevine.
I am not sure either.
- I am curious about something. - Yes?
Is this show usually not so smooth like this?
[Another unexpected attack from Bong Tae Gyu]
The problem is that the show felt like it was going way too smoothly.
[Ah... was that so?]
I'll talk about rumors regarding Park Jeong Cheol.
He has been dating a flight attendant for six years now and he's delaying marrying her.
And you proposed already, so why don't you marry her? You don't want to marry her?
[I heard it through the grapevine]
Last year... there was a news article about it.
And because of that, I thought my girlfriend should feel at ease about it now.
Men are like this...
We want to propose once we are somewhat prepared.
Not just being ready for it mentally, but also when we have the resources ready.
- I wanted to pick the right time-- - You planned it.
- Yes, I planned for it step by step. - Yes.
Then someone wrote an article about it as if we were getting married right then.
- And you weren't even ready. - Right, I thought it wasn't the right time--
When is the right time then? You aren't so young either.
- No, I am not so young anymore. - That's what I mean.
- And so... - You don't want to get married?
- Because he was beating around the bush. - That's what I am saying.
Is she okay with it?
- Are you hoping she'll break up with you? - No, it's not that.
Women can't bring up something like that.
Why not? You two have been dating for 6 years.
Because she is a self-respecting woman, it's hard for her to bring it up.
If you know that, why haven't you brought it up with her?
About that...
Last year, I bought a necklace.
- To propose to her? - Yes...
I bought a necklace and people told me that I should give her a ring to propose to her.
Yes, that's right.
- Is it? - Yes. You give her a ring.
That is true...
They said I need to get on my knees and put the ring on her finger.
A few months after that, I bought a ring early this year.
Everything was prepared.
I couldn't find the right timing because I had to go overseas a number of times.
I would've done it already if I'd stayed in Korea.
I went overseas once every month or every month and a half.
- It makes no sense to me. - Why doesn't it?
It wasn't like you were overseas every day.
You could've done it yesterday.
- And you have a ring and necklace ready. - I have everything ready.
- You bought a ring, already? - I bought it already.
But ever since I asked her the size of her ring finger, her demeanor has changed.
I feel as if she is eagerly anticipating.
'Yes, you are now ready for it, aren't you?' You know what I mean?
As if she's just waiting for it.
I think you should propose before this episode airs.
- You should. - You should before this airs.
If you don't propose after this episode airs, it's going to be--
Before...
- Before this episode airs. - Yes.
- You could become the jerk of this country. - Ah, really?
- A jerk if I don't? - Of course.
You already bought a necklace and a ring and--
This always happens to me. So I am being the bad guy?
You are.
You should arrange the wedding date.
There is something I need to think about...
I would like to propose to her on a special day like an anniversary of something.
'Everything's ready, so I should propose to her tomorrow.' I don't want to do it that way.
- When is her birthday? - It's in November.
- When did you start dating her? - On September 1st.
- Is she a Buddhist, by any chance? - She doesn't have a religion.
You could've proposed to her on Buddha's birthday.
That's right, that's right!
If she was one, I could propose to her on Buddha's birthday.
- Which airline does she work for? - It's 'K' airline.
I'm curious now. You know that ramen incident that happened on a flight?
[What do you mean...?]
You aren't interested in your girlfriend at all.
It had such a big impact for flight attendants.
An executive of a major corporation wanted a flight attendant to make ramen for him.
The executive told her it was too salty, and he hit her.
And the executive got fired because of it.
I've never heard of it...
I think it happened when he was overseas.
So the executive couldn't gain entry into America and--was he deported?
- Really? - He was.
My girlfriend doesn't talk about every little detail about her work.
- I'm not saying it happened to your girlfriend. - No, that's not what I mean.
It was a social issue. A social issue.
It was a social issue.
I'm sure she would've talked about it if it'd happened to someone in her company.
It happened to someone working for the same airline.
- Ah, really? - Yes.
You do have a girlfriend, right?
[Time to settle things down?!]
For me, I think of her as... my refuge.
I think I tend to lean on her a lot.
If she takes the lead, I am happy about it.
You say that you've been going out with her for six years.
You aren't marrying her probably because you don't feel at ease about something.
It's about the personal problems that men have.
Men are like...
- You want to be prepared. - Right, I need to settle my affairs and--
- Settle your affairs? - Settle your affairs?
- You could have personal problems, right? - Do you have debts?
- Not only that, there are also... - It makes sense now.
- Makes sense, right?
Actually, you can pay it off more quickly if you get married.
A lot of people do tell me that--
- What kind of debt-- - Does she know you have debt?
We are focusing too much on my debt.
- It's not just about that. - What are the other problems?
Is it a private loan?
No... it's not a private loan.
- Any chronic disease? - Don't have any chronic disease.
How should I say it? It's more like...
Do I have to talk about all this?
It's like this... You know how you want to be more secure in what you--
- In your career? - At least somewhat...
I don't have to be completely satisfied about it
but I want to be at a stronger point in my acting career.
I want to be in a better place when I propose to her.
Jeong Cheol, you have played many characters who were tough guys.
He played kings quite a lot.
Because of that, people may think he's a tough guy.
But in reality, he is so far from that. He is sensitive and delicate.
You were in that TV drama with Lee Tae Gon... 'King Kwanggaeto?'
You played the king of Baekjae, right?
I remember your eyes were bloodshot, and you spoke in such a heavy tone.
- But-- - You know...
So, I thought he had a lot of pressure in his eyes.
- I thought my eyes were going to pop out. - Seriously.
Historical dramas these days don't get so intense like that.
'Sam Gum... you...' They do it this way.
Back then, 'Sam Gum, someday I will get you!'
Like this. You are supposed to show raw emotions.
There were more than a few times when I almost collapsed.
That's a good idea.
Why don't you propose to her speaking in that tone?
You love her, but there are a few things you need to take care of. Say, 'Wait a little longer.'
Give it a shot.
'Honey!' See?
I'll keep it simple. Is it camera number three?
This makes me giggle...
Okay, ready. Action!
'Milady...'
'I've prepared a ring.'
'You've been waiting for a long time.'
'Wait just a bit longer.'
'I will...'
'put it on your finger soon.'
We did it! We did it!
[It's as if our national team won the World Cup]
You are good.
Time to talk about rumors regarding Bong Tae Gyu.
When you think about how he took two years off--
- Why don't they play the music for me? - They will, they will.
[He was waiting for it]
[If you want...]
[Did you feel sad about it?]
You've been off the radar for two years and six months.
It turns out you've been doing a lot of housekeeping.
Not only that, I heard that you've been doing research on cast iron pots...
What's a cast iron pot?
- It's a pot made out of cast iron. - What's cast iron?
Metal, metal, metal.
- Is it like a steam cooker? - It's 100% metal.
Like a traditional pot.
When you walk on a street, you see metal lids covering sewers, right?
A manhole cover. Yes, a manhole cover.
There are rice cookers made out of that?
[Kind of irritating...]
The two of you...
take your time to get to know each other.
[Hope that day comes soon...]
Are you interested in it because you respect what Lee Jeong Sup does?
No, it's not... How should I answer that?
In homage to Lee Jeong Sup?
[Lee Jeong Sup is well-known as a master cook]
No, no, but on second thought, it could look that way.
- That's not why. - He is such an amazing cook.
It's not for something like that...
It's driving me crazy... how do I answer that?
I was wondering why you got interested in it all of a sudden.
When I stayed home and there wasn't too much for me to do...
I wondered what I could do.
I wanted to help my mother, so I started with cleaning.
But then I stayed mostly at home.
I cleaned, washed clothes, and started to cook as well.
I entered a new world called 'housekeeping.'
And then... I have this tendency.
I am like her. Once I fall for something...
They call it 'obsession,' right?
I get extremely focused.
- You dig deep into it. - Yes, I do.
Most Korean food requires a lot of broth, right?
Regular pots lose a lot of water when you boil them.
It's hard to control the amount of broth.
Cast iron pots retain the water volume when you boil them.
That's how I got into it.
I studied the history of cast iron pots and which ones were the best.
- I have mountain-climbing gear. - Yes, there is one.
There is a very expensive cast iron pot that's part of the gear.
When I boiled a chicken in it for two hours, it was unbelievably delicious!
So, I get what you're saying.
On top of that, it works better the more you use it.
Just like hitting a hot iron makes it stronger.
But it's so expensive.
A good one costs several hundred thousand won.
When he said 'expensive,' I was thinking several million won.
Rather than being unable to afford it...
When you think about a pot, you think it should cost only tens of thousands of won.
He is thinking like a mom.
- It's not that he can't afford it-- - You are so annoying.
Don't you do any housekeeping?
If you do any housekeeping... He's driving me crazy.
It's not that easy for moms to buy things.
- Not that it's too expensive. - It's about principle.
'Would it be worth it to pay this much for a pot?' You ask yourself that.
Doesn't it take too long for it to boil?
He had... a lot of time on his hands.
- It's okay, laugh. - Anything besides cast iron pots?
These days... I am into cleaning appliances.
- Cleaning robots? - No, because I can't trust them.
I don't think it's clean unless I do it myself.
In Guk looks so perplexed.
It's impossible for you to understand him, right?
I saw how you wash strawberries on a TV program...
The day after it aired, there were so many articles about it.
'In Guk is messy.' 'Doesn't he have worms?' These were some of them.
But I take worm pills regularly.
And there were so many articles written about it.
And so many people commented on them.
'Did I do something wrong,' I started to think.
Okay, then. Tae Gyu, how are we supposed to wash strawberries?
It depends on whether they are organic or not.
- Most of them are not. - That makes the difference.
If they are organic, you just wash them with running water.
If they're not, soak them in water for one minute and then wash them in running water.
If you want them really clean, you put vinegar or baking soda in the water.
It's important to do that because it's unhealthy to eat the chemicals.
Besides that... is there something else, In Guk?
How do you clean your washroom?
Ever since I moved to my new place, I've never cleaned the bathroom.
- How long since you moved in? - It's been about 7 to 8 months.
[It's like he is looking at a Martian]
That is just wrong.
- No, it's not like that-- - What I want to know is...
- When you pee, it splashes, right? - No, I am good at aiming.
[My gosh]
That doesn't add up.
If you really don't want to clean...
Take a can of coke that you haven't finished. Don't throw it away.
Pour it in the toilet and it will sterilize it somewhat.
Why don't you stop that, kid?
[Embarrassed]
Talk about your movie with that kind of zeal.
I didn't complain when you were talking about cast iron pots because
it seemed like you were paying homage to Lee Jeong Sup.
But who are you paying homage to with that one?
Just like you make one line of kimbab when your stomach's feeling empty...
It's time to create that one line for when your life's feeling empty.
It's time for 'The power of one-liners.'
Everyone has a magical one-liner that helps them get on with their lives.
It's time to share your one-liner that you've gained from your life experiences.
Yes, and, Gu Ra, what would be your one-liner?
- Me? - Yes.
I wrote it down here.
It's...
- He always holds a pen in his hand. - And always writing down something too.
When we talked about Girl's Day, he wrote 'Girls' in English.
You weren't writing anything special--
When we were talking about Girl's Day, you wrote the word 'Girl?'
It's like I am doing a simultaneous translation.
When I think about it...
I think the most important thing for TV personalities is the quality of performance.
I think that if you are competitive enough, you will get a second chance.
So the quality of your performance is important.
- Are you talking about yourself? - Yes, I am.
If you... if you consistently chit-chat...
The way he moved his hands...
When it comes to lifestyle, Yoo Jae Suk nailed it down.
[Yoo Jae Suk's lifestyle?]
[What are you talking about?]
His lifestyle is so exemplary. He goes home when the work is done.
- He doesn't smoke or drink. - He doesn't.
- With drinking... - Once in a while, yes.
[Unexpected]
Since it's your first time here today, how about your one-liner...
I already said what mine is.
She is so dim-witted...
It won't work on me.
You don't fall for it when a pretty woman acts cute?
- I... I have my own preferences, too. - So, Hee Sun is not your type?
My type of woman is someone like Gisele Bundchen.
[Gisele Bundchen]
How about someone within the country?
Whenever someone asks me who's my type, I always pick a foreigner.
Ladies who live overseas, and usually super models.
Since you like super models, you two should talk.
- Hee Sun is an ordinary woman? - Yes, of course. Of course.
[An ordinary goddess?]
Look, when I'm looking at Hee Sun, have you ever seen me be nervous?
I am just looking.
- Oh, really? - Of course.
- How about Kang Hee? - Kang Hee... your glasses look pretty.
[So mean]
I am serious.
Park Jeong Cheol's one-liner.
Tell us about it.
I can... relate to it a little.
Jeong Cheol's one-liner...
'Write your autograph only on a blank sheet of paper.'
- I think he meant... - What does it mean?
When he said why he is delaying proposing to his girlfriend...
- I got it. - Because he made a lot of promises.
And he vouched for people.
'Write your autograph only on a blank sheet of paper.'
But then, why did you write your autograph there?
[An autograph session by a best-selling author]
I've run into some problems too when giving my autograph.
When it comes to signing something...
I think you shouldn't do that even on a blank sheet of paper
because someone might forge a document around it.
[He is indeed the authority on things like this]
What kind of papers did you sign?
He's somebody I met as a business acquaintance, but...
After a while, we became so close that we knew each other's family members as well.
He wanted to involve me in the business he runs.
When someone knows a celebrity very well--
- An advertising executive. - Yes, it was something like that.
Using your name?
He guaranteed me some money.
- And he-- - So, that's how it started.
I didn't read the contract when I signed it because we were friends.
- I just signed it. - Wait, before you did that.
Before that, didn't he treat you so well whenever you two met?
Like buy you drinks and stuff?
Before I signed it, there was a period of time when we became good friends.
I didn't suspect him at all.
- How long did you know him? - Over four years.
So, you couldn't have known.
There was no way for me to know.
And...
One day, he called me. He said, 'Hey, Jeong Cheol.'
And it was around my birthday as well. I was doing a TV drama at the time.
I got his phone call.
'Jeong Cheol, what's your home address? Is it the one you told me before?'
'Yes, it's that one,' I told him.
- 'I've mailed you something.' - 'Oh really?'
I thought he sent me a birthday gift because we were good friends.
And... I received it one or two weeks later.
- It was a letter. - Yes.
- A certified mail? - It's the first time I'd ever seen one.
It was the list of his personal expenses.
The list of his personal expenses such as dinners and hotel charges.
The letter said that I was responsible for making the payments.
Why, why?
I am not sure why.
You didn't read the letter?
How could you not know even to this day?
I'm not sure what his motivation was for sending it to me.
One thing for sure, his business didn't turn out very well.
I heard that I needed to take responsibility for the portion
of the company's debt in proportion to my stake in it.
I had no idea because I've never run a business before.
So what was the total of his personal expenses?
I think... when you add up everything, it's close to 100 million won.
He ate and drank a lot.
When I retraced his every expense, it was less than half the actual amount.
When you received that certified mail, did you talk with him?
I didn't.
- You should. - I didn't.
If you were good friends, you should ask, 'Buddy, what's happening here?'
Never mind about that.
Because the trust is broken already, and he would've said, 'Hey, talk to my lawyer.'
I was afraid that I might look so lame.
He didn't want to go there.
It was no problem that I had to pay for his personal expenses.
The problem was the contract that I'd signed saying I was his business partner.
I had to pay my portion of the company's debt.
- When you looked into it. - There was no other way around it.
The court battle went on for about two years and ended two months ago.
- That is unfair. - Yes, that is unfair.
- It's not just about the money. - I get it. I do.
You know how much I invested in him emotionally, right?
There was no way for me to get compensated for it.
I thought it would take so long.
While the court battle was going on, I suffered so much.
- Did you talk to him face to face? - We didn't.
- You never met him since then? - No, I haven't.
- You just wanted your ties with him to... - Dissolve.
I found that I've become so closed off to other people.
Even when I meet someone that I like
I automatically become suspicious of them.
Did you think that way when you went to a jungle overseas?
Before I went into that jungle, I told people around me
'I am going over there to get healed and get cheered up.'
- Did it help you? - You know...
After going there two or three times, I felt like it was nothing serious.
For some reason, I feel like I've become resilient.
So I think that being on 'Laws of the Jungle' was a positive thing for me.
Sorry to ask, but when the court battle was going on, you were in that historical drama?
- I was in the middle of all that-- - That explains his intense eyes!
I am sure General Dae Yeo Sung's head and body are in different places.
- You should know! - What?
Right? That's right. That makes sense.
- I think it might have helped my acting. - It helped you, right?
You came out of it well, Jeong Cheol.
Do an impression of Dam Duk once again.
I wasn't Dam Duk. I was King Ah Shin of Baekjae.
It bothered me when I heard it, but I wasn't sure when I should tell you.
Yes, Dam Duk is the name of King Kwanggaeto. That's right.
I am sorry.
That's so him. He pretends like he knows his Korean history when he doesn't.
He said he played Dam Duk but it wasn't Dam Duk he played.
And he didn't even mention it right at the moment he heard it.
That's what I mean.
He could've said that I used the wrong name.
It's King Ah Shin I played.
'Gu Ra, I didn't play Dam Duk,' he should've said.
You know how King Ah Shin died?
- How did he die? - He died of too much anger.
His military kept losing battles hundreds of times, so some say he died of feeling angry.
That's how I feel, right now.
Okay, forget I said 'Dam Duk.' Ah Shin, okay, I got it.
When you come across real swindlers... real swindlers.
They look friendly, right?
When I went through an interesting experience, I met someone at the time.
It was brief, but...
'Oh, what brings you here?' That's the first thing they say.
- Talking smoothly. - We talked about this and that.
When I told him that my business partner took everything and ran away...
'It must've been hard for you,' he told me.
And one of the prison guards told me...
that that guy was convicted thirteen times for fraud.
There is this famous story about his method.
He went to a rural area.
The only people who live there are elderly people.
He cleaned and picked up garbage in that village.
They were suspicious of an outsider.
After a year of that, people wondered why he sacrificed himself to do things like that.
'How come you're here?' someone asked him.
He said, 'Some people betrayed me. I don't want to meet new people.'
'How do you have money to support yourself?' they asked him.
'I've made a lot of money and I make money by trading stocks.'
'Help me make money with it, too,' they asked him.
They gave him one million won or so and he gave it back with interest.
After three years, he had full access to every account that everyone owns in that village.
Three years of working on them. Then he disappeared with everyone's money.
- It's incredible. - [There is someone like that too...]
Jeong Cheol keeps letting out sighs of relief.
It consoled me when I least expected it.
I think Hwasin is far more healing to you than 'Laws of the Jungle.'
I think I should be your guest again soon.
- When I'm struggling... - [Please do even when you aren't]
Should we do Ah Shin's voice one last time?
'I mean it! I'll never and ever!' Like this.
He loves doing skits so much.
And his voice sounds more like a disloyal subject.
It's good.
Okay, let's go.
'Look here!'
'You shouldn't sign your name, even on blank paper!'
'Never!'
[Bravo]
Shall we move on to the next person?
His says, 'Being a good son/daughter means you make your parents worry.'
Ah... I think it's about something...
- really deep. - Mm...
Is that how you write your autograph?
I changed it recently.
Like that?
I came up with it recently--
Did you learn how to write recently?
[Biting remarks continue]
Since you're supposed to use your name, why not just write my name.
Some people sign very elaborately and then print their names below.
So I thought keeping it simple would be the best way.
What does it mean?
I think I know what it means.
Not everyone may get what you meant.
It's something I learned because of my father.
It's like that in our country, too. Fathers and sons don't usually
get along well, nor are they affectionate with one another.
That's right, that's right.
I became an actor unexpectedly, so it wasn't a job that my father wanted for me.
I usually came home very late, and some days I didn't come home.
After a while...
I couldn't tell him how I was doing because I was afraid he might be worried.
So you just start letting it slide, you know?
I often didn't tell him how I was doing because I thought he knew. So...
When I thought about it, it turns out the two of us never went out to eat together.
I was shocked when I realized it, as well.
Because I thought we would've done that, no question.
You two never went to dinner together after you became an actor?
- But before that, didn't you-- - Not before that either.
- When you were a teenager, he never-- - Never happened.
- Your dad wasn't too affectionate either. - No, my dad wasn't really.
Were you in the middle of a court battle?
That took place, as well.
The hardest thing was that I received so much mail.
Mail isn't something I can block, right?
You don't even know when they get mailed.
My father stayed home, so he read many of them.
For an elderly guy like him...
when he reads a letter from an attorney...
It's scary to read them.
They make it sound as if something terrible happened, and my father read one.
It was a letter for a court case.
I didn't make the right decision back then.
I should've explained to him what was taking place.
I told him about it once and he kept asking me about it.
I told him about it at first, but eventually I stopped telling him.
I started to avoid him.
Because if I talked to him, he kept asking me about it.
I wanted to tell him, but I was concerned that doing so might make him worry even more.
So I started to avoid him...
I think it was on a Sunday.
Mom and Dad went to climb a mountain.
Mom called me and I answered it.
It was a sunny day. I still remember...
Mom told me, 'Tae Gyu, something went wrong.'
- 'I think your dad passed away,' she said. - Pardon?
I asked her again, and she told me she thought he passed away.
From her voice, I could tell she was in total shock.
I thought that Dad might be injured and she might have thought
that he passed away when she saw it happening in front of her.
When I asked how she found out about it, she told me she heard it from someone.
I told her to check it out herself.
I couldn't believe what I'd heard, so I sat in confusion.
She called me again and said he might have suffered a severe injury.
I was relieved to hear that.
She told me they were moving him to a hospital.
She said she didn't see him in person because he got injured while climbing.
- He fell? - Yes.
A helicopter flew him to a hospital.
I called my siblings and we drove to the hospital.
We drove to the hospital.
I got a phone call from an unknown number.
That's when I felt something was off.
But... I answered the call.
I knew what happened when the caller asked for my name and said, 'Are you his guardian?'
What happened was...
'Are you his guardian,' he asked. 'Yes, I am,' I replied.
He asked me this question...
'Are you driving right now?' he asked me.
That's when I knew. And he asked me one more time.
'Are you driving right now? 'No, I am not,' I answered.
He told me my father had passed away... Yes...
- Were you the first person he called? - Yes, so...
It makes me even sadder because...
I was his guardian...
- Yes, legally speaking. - I had never thought of it that way.
Because my father is my guardian...
Yes...
And so... when we arrived at the hospital...
we had to go through something that's even more difficult and cruel
because...
He got into an accident and... the guardian had to identify his body.
- That must've been... - Yes.
Because he died of falling...
When I was identifying his body, the doctor was supposed to...
explain what happened to him.
He told me what happened to my father's body...
- That what happened-- - To his body.
He told me what happened to him.
And...
I saw his hand...
Hand...
I saw my father's hand.
It had dirt on it.
It was...
And now...
I didn't let my siblings nor my mom see the body.
It was funny because...
after he passed away, I am trying to act like his son.
I felt so disappointed in myself.
- My sisters were crying-- - You were avoiding him around that time.
When did you last meet him before he passed away?
- I hadn't seen him for a while. - Ah, so...
After he passed away, people told me stories about him.
My older sister told me...
that Dad missed me.
- And with things like-- - Yes...
Fathers who have never shown their affection can never say it.
'Tae Gyu, I miss you...' Most fathers can't say this to their sons.
The saddest thing was...
While I was avoiding my father...
He was curious if I was home or not.
And my room is the first one past the front door.
I thought he might open the door and see if I am in...
They said he didn't
and that he looked at my shoes instead.
He checked my shoes to see whether I was in or not.
I have so many shoes because I like to collect shoes, right?
He was looking for my traces as if he was playing a game of Where's Waldo.
Realizing that made me sad, but the saddest day was...
I was sitting alone in the spot where Dad probably would've sat and eaten by himself.
- I am sure that's how he ate his meals. - That's right...
That's when I cried so much.
And...
Fathers of both your and my generations were like that.
My dad and I never went out for a drink.
I don't know much about my father either.
I had no idea how he was doing when I was in high school.
For 2.5 years, you didn't do anything at all as an actor after that happened, right?
- It's been a very long time. - Yes, yes.
You didn't have any income, right? How did you make a living?
I thought, 'Let's not spend much since I don't have much and...'
I was glad that it was that way.
My father looked for my traces by looking at so many of my shoes.
I started to hate that I'd bought so many.
- That you collect things like-- - New clothes and stuff.
I stopped doing that.
You know, actors have no income if we don't work, right?
I didn't spend any money.
I wore only one set of clothes.
Even now...
Not because I don't have money, but I use public transit.
- You sold your car, too? - Yes. I use public transit or walk if I can.
- Even to this day? - Even to this day.
- Did you use public transit today? - No, since I am working.
On my own time, I try to do things on my own if I can.
- I don't have a stylist because-- - I shouldn't have teased him for that jacket.
I think you should offer him an apology.
I was going to tease you but I sensed there was a reason behind it.
Sorry that I said you looked like a producer.
- But you know-- - He's sorry that he said that.
And you know... it's kind of embarrassing to say this myself.
This jacket is well-received among people who know this kind of fashion.
It's well-received among people who like classic fashion.
- It's a cool style. - Yes, it's a cool style.
And I am sure you are treating your mom very well.
Yes, with Mom, I... The reason why I chose that one is...
I thought being a good son meant I needed to do something spectacular and be successful...
but that wasn't it.
Parents are curious about you, right?
When they look at us, they wonder, 'Have you eaten?'
'Where have you been?' It might seem trivial to us, but...
it shows that they are curious about even the littlest things.
I tell her about every little thing.
The reason why I discovered the world of housekeeping is
after I was shocked by that accident, how I think about work has changed.
My dad was very strict.
- I heard he hit you a lot. - Yes, and...
I told him, 'This is my life. This is my dream.'
'Please let me live my life,' and I got myself to Seoul.
Even my mother told me I shouldn't go.
'Because we aren't rich enough to support you if you go.'
I am sure it hurt her pride to say that to her son.
True.
'I'll take care of it myself. So, let me go to Seoul.' And so I went.
[He went to Seoul because he wanted to be a singer]
But I didn't have any money nor did I have a place to live.
One of my peers rented a house in Bangbae-dong.
So I asked him
'Please let me live with you until I find my own place.'
I was able to live with him, but...
you start feeling guilty about it, right?
Even if he doesn't say anything, you get self-conscious about it.
I think that was the most diligent time of my life.
I cleaned and washed everything.
The only thing I can cook is eggs.
So I made him fried eggs, rolled eggs, and steamed eggs.
Sometimes I made him instant soup that they sell at convenient stores.
I cleaned and cooked.
I didn't want to go home, so I stayed at a studio all day.
On a hot day, I went home sweaty.
He was sitting in the living room and somewhat drunk.
I was very sweaty, so I told him, 'I need to shower,' and he said...
'Hey, don't take a shower,' he told me.
I didn't know what he meant, so I said, 'What?'
'I don't know. Don't take a shower,' he said.
'Ah, he's sending me signals. He wants me to move out,' I thought.
When I thought that, I felt so angry, because... because...
I didn't have any money. It took so much for me to get to Seoul.
I spent those months acting carefully so I wouldn't be too much of a bother to him.
I swallowed my pride and cleaned the house.
Everything that I'd been repressing, the moment he gave me a hard time, I exploded.
Turned into rage.
I couldn't hold it down. In that moment, I thought...
- I might do something so bad.... - That's how things like that happen.
In that moment, it wasn't enough to just punch him.
My emotions called for more than just punching him.
In that moment, I didn't want to treat him like a human being.
When I was looking around for something to throw at him...
Suddenly, my mom came to my thoughts.
'Because we aren't rich enough to support you, couldn't you stay here with us?'
'No, I don't want to. I want to go,' I'd told her.
I told her that and if I did something wrong...
In that moment, I felt rage and at the same time, another emotion filled me up.
I felt guilt about what I'd said to Mom, and the rage didn't go away.
I felt more of that emotion and I found myself laughing.
'Come on, let me take a shower.'
Then...
I ran to the bathroom so fast.
I ran and I covered my eyes and cried.
My pride was hurt so bad.
Thinking about your mom is the cure to every disease... in my view.
When I feel so angry, I think about my mom.
There is an old proverb that says thinking of your mom can inspire you in dire situations.
So, I think thinking about your mom really is the cure.
Right now, I'm thinking to myself, 'This is taking way too long... But Mom told me to do my best.'
And I think, 'Yes, that's right. It's been years since I've been
'here at SBS. I'll work hard, and I'll call my mom after.'
You talked about how thrilled you are to work for SBS just a few hours ago.
It's only been a few hours and Gu Ra is already frowning.
Yes, and I feel happier because I thought of my mom.
People have complexes and feel inferior about something, right?
The moment you accept that...
I hear that you become sexy whether you are a man or woman.
I think like this.
It makes sense why he felt that way, including his friend.
And when that happens
nothing gets resolved if you do this or that about it.
Even if he threw a chair at him.
He felt enraged and could have acted on it...
But doing that doesn't solve anything.
So the thought I think most frequently these days is, 'There's nothing I can do.'
I'll take that one and...
And add another one?
'I am not afraid of failing. I am just afraid I won't try.'
- That one is a little-- - Whose is it?
Tell me whose quote is that?
Isn't it from Reader's Digest?
It's a one-liner full of greed.
After that day, I told you that I changed a lot, right?
I developed a new habit.
Just as Tae Gyu said, I say, 'There's nothing I can do,' and I let it go.
You know, I often say that.
'So what, whatever.' That's how I say it.
I say it like, 'Yes, that's understandable.'
[Why didn't you mention it earlier...]
The power of a one-liner by Choi Kang Hee.
Can you please say yours?
'What's wrong with being lazy?'
- Some people live fast and some live slow. - True.
I don't think we need everyone to live at the same pace.
I am always in the rankings when they vote for celebrities with babyfaces.
And I do get treatments.
- When I am in a TV drama, whenever I can-- - Get botox shots?
I have done that.
I get botox shots when I am in a TV drama.
When I am not in a TV drama, I do nothing.
- You stay at home? - I don't shower if I don't want to.
I just stay at home.
I think the secret to looking young is that I don't get
stressed out about things, but I live the way that pleases me.
What are the benefits of being lazy?
I sorted out my relationships that way.
I don't like to answer my phone, so there was a time when I carried a pager.
I noticed that she carries a pager.
I purchased a cellphone last year.
- Before that I used a pager. - Were there people who paged you?
That's how I sorted out my relationships.
Most people don't page.
It's not that--
- You could page someone, right? - Oh, yes.
Nobody except for those who truly needed me paged me even though it was so inconvenient.
So I found the people who were my true friends.
True, true.
Are you that way when you are in love, as well?
I have a hard time eating with him.
It depends on who I am eating with.
- You can't eat fast if you're with him? - No.
My heart beats so fast, so I can't eat with that person.
When you develop feelings for someone
you usually say, 'Let's go eat.' So how do you date someone?
So that's why I used to have an upset stomach.
I carried an acupuncture needle because of that.
I went to the bathroom and poked myself to digest better or drank 7-Up.
When I go on a variety show, my heart beats so fast.
I'm the same way when I'm dating someone. So it's a little embarrassing.
How come you get nervous only when you are eating with that person?
- I don't know... - You're strange.
But I like it. I get an upset stomach, but that's when I am so happy.
[Indigestion means she's in love]
When she doesn't have indigestion, it's time for her to break up with him.
There was this one time...
Do women really tell how many guys they have dated on TV?
- I leave out a few. - You leave out a few, right?
You leave out a few and...
Dozens of them?
- There are some that do not qualify. - True.
Because you don't know that when you are dating that person.
When you are dating, it does feel like you like them.
But I realized after we broke up, I didn't get an upset stomach when I ate with him.
- You don't count them. - She doesn't count those ones.
I didn't get an upset stomach while eating and realized, 'Ah, I guess I don't love him.'
I'm sure some men watching this show are thinking
'Yes... I asked Kang Hee to go out with me, but she refused...'
And the reason was...
If you ate with them many times...
- 'I guess Kang Hee's not into me.' - Yes, there is a truth to that.
- Have you ever eaten with Tae Gyu? - We went to eat the first time we met.
On our first meeting, you ate a big chunk of rice.
She ordered so many dishes and...
- So she isn't into you? - No.
Thank you for feeling at ease with me.
When I find a new love, I completely forget about the last one.
Kind of cold...
But I have a hard time letting go of his things.
[...what?]
I still have things I got from the guys I went out with.
Ah, you still have them?
I tell myself I should throw them away someday.
What I mean is... there's nothing wrong with keeping them. But what do you keep?
For example... his hair?
[Embarrassed...]
- No, he has a point. - Right?
- It's a good question. - Yes!
'How did you think of that?' I thought. I think I'm starting to like this guy.
Before he took a break, you two were working together, right?
To be honest, I really didn't like him.
I hated him so much. I laughed, but I thought, 'What's wrong with him?'
- But I think he is a great guy. - Yes.
Yes, people who went through some hard times like me.
Right? When I have an opportunity, I would like to work with you on a show.
Yes, that's a good idea.
I think I can suck a lot of content out of you two.
When you talk, I can say anything.
I am falling for you.
[I love Kim Gu Ra]
Don't you have something special?
- It's been a while since I opened it. - You have a quite few?
It's full. I have movie tickets and letters in it too.
- Yes... - Which movie?
- I have something weird. - Yes, do tell.
- Should I say what it is? - Oh, yes, yes.
[Hurry and tell]
I might seem a little naughty.
I have letters he received from other people.
I have the letter that my ex-boyfriend received from another woman at that time.
[Jackpot]
He doesn't know about it, right?
I think... he doesn't know.
I would like to keep it that way.
I didn't want him to think of that woman if he were to read those letters, so I took them all.
- All of them? - It's....
They were letters he received from other TV personalities.
[Oh my!]
It may sound strange, but...
Around the time I wanted to break up with him, I found them and took them with me.
Was the sender someone you knew well?
- No, I haven't run into-- - Is she working these days?
Of course.
- Good handwriting? - She has a cute handwriting.
I don't think they are recent because
most people text each other...
It happened a long time ago.
- Didn't it happen about 10 years ago? - Yes.
Ah, her...
- Do you know? - I just put it out there.
[These two are alike in a mysterious way]
Are you going to throw them away someday?
I would feel like I would lose my past if I lose them.
- You are going to get married, right? - Me?
Not thinking about it yet?
I would like to get married when it's time.
You can let them go when you want to get married.
Yes, that's true.
Did you let them go?
- Of course-- - I left them at my mom's house.
[Totally kidding]
I heard women leave them at their mother's house.
- It's in that room, right? - [Stop it!]
[No misunderstandings, please!]
When I see your one-liner, 'What's wrong with being lazy?'
I think there is nothing wrong with it.
You aren't even a beggar.
- A good one. - You said that you like being lazy.
I tend to be lazy, as well.
I love being lazy so much. I love lying around and doing nothing.
But you do more shows than anyone else.
That's what I mean by don't write your signature for anyone.
He's hosting so many TV shows because he signed the wrong papers.
Is there something you want to add, Jeong Cheol?
Does it have be one line?
You can do a really long one. A really long one.
I worked with an actress who's now a top star who debuted in the same movie that I did.
It was more than 10 years ago and the director was a famous director.
He was extremely strict and he wanted to control everyone as he wanted.
It was about a month before the last episode of the show.
Actresses refused to work with him.
I think they felt he insulted their dignity.
Men could just think, 'Let's just work hard,' and let it go.
Women are not like that.
But there was nobody who could stand up to him.
Several of them came to me and said
'You are a man and the main character of the show. You should do this.'
Take one for the team?
No, I wouldn't have done it if I'd thought I was taking one for the team.
I didn't even have time to think that way. I thought...
'Really? We have a whole month to go and they won't work with him?'
'Then, I should tell him.'
I thought... it should help if I talk to him... while many people are around us.
- When everyone is around? - As many people as possible.
- On top of that-- - That's the jackpot.
On top of that...
there were no bad feelings between the director and me.
I just thought, 'Let's finish the show without any incident.'
And also...
And I did it when he put me on standby for so long. He's famous for that.
I waited for my scene for nine hours that day.
You were waiting for nine hours.
And when he called for me
'I think I should tell him about it now,' so I went.
'This is what's happening. I wonder what your thoughts are about it.'
I tried to tell him that there were people who might not cooperate.
- Not, 'It's hard for them.' - No, I couldn't go that far.
- Did you speak in a loud voice? - It was loud enough for people to hear.
But he didn't want to listen to me.
He kept trying to say what he needed to say.
'Look, how could you do this to me in front of all these people?'
I think that's what he said.
I felt so frustrated and many of us wanted to say that--
Were there any older actors for that show?
There were older actors, but on that day...
they weren't there.
And they asked me.
You fell for it.
Nosy?
Fell for it is... How could you say I was nosy?
I am telling a very emotional story here.
[Getting angry at Hee Sun for no reason?!]
And so, then, what happened?
- I hit myself. - Yourself?
- You punched a wall? - I punched a wall.
And so...
It happened over ten years ago.
- You were like a rookie. - I was like a rookie.
You aren't supposed to say something like that when you are.
That is true, but--
And also, I understand he didn't listen to you.
But hitting yourself because of that is... I am sure people saw you doing that.
But...
The people who had problems with him don't tell him and instead
talk to someone like me who had no problems with him.
The people who came to talk to me about it... Actresses... production staff...
On my way out, I saw them, right?
I might have lost it, but I was curious how they might react.
Did they go, 'Good, good, good job. Here, drink this.'
They could have cheered me up a little, but...
- none of that happened. - And so what happened?
After that...
It turns out I was the one who didn't get to work.
They fired me.
So, I thought...
The most upsetting thing was...
When the people who asked me to do it were indifferent to me.
No, I wasn't asking for a lot from them.
'He doesn't have to go that far.'
'What's wrong with him?' they thought.
'What is he doing? Why didn't he talk to him in private? How embarrassing,' they thought.
'How could he treat the director like that?' they probably thought.
They might have thought that.
After that incident, I didn't work for about four years.
I see.
Who were the other actors in your age range?
Song Seung Hun.
Jang Hyuk. There weren't too many.
Only if you didn't hurt yourself...
Did you talk to the director after that happened?
- I couldn't. - He didn't want to talk to you?
- At the time, I-- - I mean after you finished your military service.
- I didn't go talk to him. - You should've talked to him.
He is kind of stubborn.
For example, you could've told him, 'Actually, I was putting on a performance.'
A performance?
In order to re-open a line of communication with him, by saying something far-fetched.
How I approached--
You took a completely wrong approach.
You confronted him in front of so many people instead of talking with him in private.
As if you were determined to embarrass him in front of so many people.
And you were just a rookie, as well.
The director probably trusted you a lot too, but you hurt yourself and everything.
But I thought that it was a very serious situation that I needed to deal with.
Do you keep in touch with the people who asked you to do it?
They tend to avoid me, yes.
Don't be too upset about it.
What do you think about what Jeong Cheol did?
- Am I immature? - Yes.
I've been thinking that for a while...
Really?
If I was you, I would've handled it this way...
'Director, actually, I am telling you this on behalf of someone.'
'Choi Kang Hee and Kim Hee Sun said...'
'that you are being a little too hard on them.'
'I understand your situation, but could you grant their request?'
'I am relaying their message to you.'
- How about talking to him in a group of seven? - 'Relaying their message' is a good idea.
'I don't think the way they do.'
'I like the way you work with us myself.'
And as you turn around, you say, 'Come on, girls...'
Yes, that's a good one.
- I should learn things like this. - Your one-liner: 'Handle it like Gu Ra does.'
[Clear and simple]
['Write an autograph only on a blank sheet of paper']
['Being a good son/daughter means you make your parents worry.']
['What's wrong with being lazy?']
['Nothing I can do.']
[Next week on Hwasin]
Never been on a show like this.
- Now I can tell the story. - What? I just might tell on you.
You are ending someone's social life.
I looked it up.
- Reporter Bong. - Thank you very much...
[A shocking news from Reporter Bong]
- Emperor of the Night. - What's that? This is unfair.
- Hey, I've got you now! - I said I didn't do it.
Popularity naturally fades. I gained so much weight.
I told him I don't want to be a singer anymore.
Go back to Thailand.
We have it today, too.
[Next week on Hwasin, Korea's top tough guys come to you!]